Thematic posted: Cochrane Gambit

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Thematic posted: Cochrane Gambit

Post by tellymetwise » Tue Sep 23, 2003 4:28 pm

10 players all play all, twice.

It's a 5 days + 10 days per move game, meaning plenty of time to play.
Though it's a knight for two pawns gambit, played with care, strategy and cunning, white can keep black at the edge of the pit a very long time. Just imagine a fingertips energy extra is enough to push black in. But then again, if white allows black to grab a hold to soon, black will swing around and fling white into the pit like a first rate Judoka black belt.

Just join and take your time playing the game, and enjoy living on the edge of chess. 8)

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Post by keithstuart » Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:36 am

Challenge me to a game and i'll play you over a 2 game match just the two of us as i am trying to keep the number of games down for a while

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Post by tellymetwise » Sat Oct 04, 2003 7:31 am

ladies and laddies playing Cochrane Gambit,

Please note some important strategical points when playing white.
1. Try to gain a 3 pawn center with the d, e and f pawns.
2. Back-up the f-pawn with your castled King's Rook
3. Avoid exchanging Queens!
4.a Try using the a2-g8 line and the (to be opened) f-file for attack
4.b Avoid black playing the blocking d5. This also opens game for black.
5. Make sure that with every move you make, black is slowed down developing both Rooks!
6. if you manage to play f2-f4-f5, with the above rules, changes are better then 50% that white can force game.
7. Luck has nothing to do with it.
8. to be Active or to be Passive, that's not the question, avoid passive play!
9. Avoid exchanging Queens! (yes, again, it's white's most active piece)
10. Enjoy the game :lol:

btw: I've posted an example game under puzzles and game comments

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Post by keithstuart » Sat Oct 04, 2003 7:56 am

ops i swapped queens in our game oh well

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Post by tellymetwise » Sat Oct 04, 2003 9:04 am

That's one of the reasons I posted this Keith. Sorry for the delay.

I like to win, but not by playing a game where others start believing white can only win if black blunders due to the nature of the gambit.
Black should actualy start sweating around move 12 up to move 30/40.
After that, it's every small accumulated well placed (or misplaced) piece which counts.

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Post by keithstuart » Sat Oct 04, 2003 10:23 am

isn't always a single misplaced piece that leads to the lose :wink:

i know it is true for me along with errors it is my usual way of losing

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Post by tellymetwise » Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:44 pm

That's why I started the game with 10d per move. I don't mind if you examine positions tactically and strategically.
The 2 daily newspaper chess puzzles are quite easy as they already outline what must be achieved (and in how many moves).
Here, it's me who has to determine the goals and playability. With 20 games now going, 2 boards a day is enough enjoyment for me. Though the more I enjoy a game, the faster I'll reply, especially when you play what I was expecting you to play.

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Post by keithstuart » Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:05 pm

tellymetwise wrote:That's why I started the game with 10d per move. I don't mind if you examine positions tactically and strategically.
The 2 daily newspaper chess puzzles are quite easy as they already outline what must be achieved (and in how many moves).
Here, it's me who has to determine the goals and playability. With 20 games now going, 2 boards a day is enough enjoyment for me. Though the more I enjoy a game, the faster I'll reply, especially when you play what I was expecting you to play.
i was wondering why it was 10 days a move

i have around 30 games on the go currently which is roughly what i cna manage at a time most of my games are 2 days a move which is fine by me as i log in several times a day

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Post by tellymetwise » Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:58 pm

There is one thing I like better then chess, and that's bridge.
And there is second thing I'd like to do too. If some of my posts here raises a question or response, then that is answered by me.
The chess games all come in due time, and I hope with a reply that was worth the wait. :idea:

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Post by muabdib » Sun Oct 05, 2003 4:13 am

From the statistical point of view the results are rather interesting:
In OTB: 58% wins for White and 42% wins for Black (without the draws)
ELO-performance of White: 2250, of Black: 2150

In CC and email-chess: 40 % wins for White and the same percentage for Black (without draws). The ELO-performance both for White and Black are very low: under 1700 in both cases. But this gambit has been played 10x as much (%) as in OTB!

In OTB and CC the higher the ELO of White the better the results for White. But it is not played on a high level neither in OTB- nor in CC-games. But it’s very interesting to know that the recent results in OTB as well as in CC are very much in favor for White!

The number of games in OTB: 2.600.00
In CC: 600.000

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Post by keithstuart » Sun Oct 05, 2003 5:39 am

Where is JohnRussell when you need him

He'd give us percentage wins after each move for white and black as he has done in my games with him in the past

If i could afford chess assistant and know how to use it properly i could do the same

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Post by muabdib » Sun Oct 05, 2003 6:45 am

keithstuart wrote:Where is JohnRussell when you need him

He'd give us percentage wins after each move for white and black as he has done in my games with him in the past

If i could afford chess assistant and know how to use it properly i could do the same
Actually I suppose John is about to eat his mushroomsoup under clouded skies, surrounded by the roaring of wild beasts- in his beloved wilderness.The Cochrane doesn't mean anything for him! :(

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Post by keithstuart » Sun Oct 05, 2003 6:48 am

muabdib wrote:
keithstuart wrote:Where is JohnRussell when you need him

He'd give us percentage wins after each move for white and black as he has done in my games with him in the past

If i could afford chess assistant and know how to use it properly i could do the same
Actually I suppose John is about to eat his mushroomsoup under clouded skies, surrounded by the roaring of wild beasts- in his beloved wilderness.The Cochrane doesn't mean anything for him! :(
Whens he due back cos i thought he was only going for 12-18 months

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Post by tellymetwise » Mon Dec 22, 2003 6:57 am

If anyone is interrested in the Cochrane Gambit, either just as white or black, you can challange me with the following moves:

2 games, both white and black
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7

2 games, only white: let black time out.
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7 Kxf7 5.your-move

2 games, only black: let white time out.
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7 Kxf7

time setting: 5 days (or what you like) + 3 to 5 days per move
I'll except 14 games total, or 7 matches as white and black.

Estimated time per game, 3-4 months.

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Post by tellymetwise » Mon Dec 22, 2003 7:32 pm

If your timeout record is a problem, I let the color you don't want to play time out.

As long as a game is under 10 moves and flagged as time out, it doesn't count towards your rating.

I couldn't find any other way to preselect a wanted color.

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Post by gmiller » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:35 pm

A timeout always counts towards the looser, it's just wins off of timeouts under 10 moves don't count. There's not real good way to make sure you'll get the right color. Probably the best way is to either have the player with the lowest rating resign, or if your ratings are close, draw the game.

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Post by tellymetwise » Tue Dec 23, 2003 7:28 am

maybe an idea to create the possibility?

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Post by hamot » Thu Jan 08, 2004 8:54 pm

tellymetwise wrote:maybe an idea to create the possibility?
Just offer and accept a draw. Tends to ease the burden.

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John Russell

Post by davidswhite » Sat Jan 10, 2004 12:57 am

It's been 12 months since my friend,John,pulled up stakes and headed
back into the wilderness.I miss him a lot but still expect him to reappear
here any day loaded for bear as well as for our scalps.

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Post by peterpawn » Mon Jan 12, 2004 6:28 pm

It's good to see you are still around David, and hope you are right about John coming back but, I don't need any help loosing my hair! :lol:
*PAWN* POWER*

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